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Bob Costas Visited “Real Time” to Discuss Taylor Swift and the Super Bowl

A busy news week made for a somewhat hectic episode

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The latest "Real Time With Bill Maher" took on a wide variety of subjects.

By Tobias Carroll

Last week, in the lead-up to the Grammy Awards, Real Time With Bill Maher featured an appearance from Killer Mike. This week, in the lead-up to the Super Bowl, one of the episode’s panelists was Bob Costas, one of the nation’s best-known sports journalists. A timely choice, to say the least. Though, to be fair, Costas also had plenty to say about the state of contemporary American politics.

If viewers were expecting a lengthy deconstruction of Big Game narratives, though, that wasn’t on the table. The panel didn’t get to the Super Bowl until the second half of their discussion, and even then, the game was addressed largely through the Taylor Swift of it all.

Specifically, both Maher and Costas pointed to Swift’s tremendous cultural cachet right now. “This is a person who could literally swing this election,” Maher said. “I don’t know what that says about this country.” Both Maher and Costas made the point that they saw this as being more about turnout than ideology.

From there, the panel (which also included The Atlantic’s Caitlin Flanagan) talked about another high-profile 2024 sporting event: the Olympics. Maher brought up trans swimmer Lia Thomas’s lawsuit in which she seeks to compete in the Olympics. Costas was a voice of relative moderation, pointing out that Thomas had competed well since coming out as transgender, but was not dominating the sport overall.

“She’s much better, relatively, in competition with women,” he said. “She’s not really at the top across the board.”

Costas seemed to have spent a lot of time thinking about the issue, and also addressed the elephant in the room – namely, that the debate over trans athletes can (and often does) head into places that have very little do with sports themselves. “Some people who use this as an issue actually are hostile towards trans people,” Costas said.

Which isn’t to say that he was entirely supportive of trans athletes’ right to compete. He was of the opinion that creating trans-only categories for sports was a bad idea, but also cited boxing’s different weight categories as a possible template, at least for certain sports.

In other words, he felt that sports’ governing bodies should have some clear rules in place. “I’m not prepared to say exactly what those rules would entail,” Costas said. It’s probably more indicative of the state of televised debates than anything else, but Costas’s admission that he didn’t have all of the answers was, in its own way, refreshing.

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